Podcast: Frauke Fischer on coffee, cocoa, and biodiversity

"Hey, Nature, sorry, but we really need to make money. You've got to work with your weird ecosystem somehow. It's just not working. Nature is a bad negotiating partner."

Frauke Fischer is an expert in biodiversity, imports coffee and cocoa from Peru, and explains nature using easy-to-understand images. Frauke was on her way to Bern and stopped in Basel—we took the opportunity to record a podcast. And in this hour, we meander through coffee, cocoa, biodiversity, and back again.

Frauke Fischer in conversation with Philipp Schallberger